Author Topic: Re: Getting the Zodiac Spear from the Henne Mines Chest - Guaranteed Part II  (Read 26918 times)

TwilightLord

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Thanks for the quick reply. I did edit the formula. I cast Cure twice to find out where I was in the list, looked for where the nearest random number ending in <10 was, then cast Cure until I got to four spaces above it. Every Cure I did returned a value that matched the next value in the table, and I must have cast it about ten times or so. I know hitting yourself moves it along faster but I didn't want to go past it by accident.

Also, you always start at 500+? In the other thread there was an example posted by someone who apparently started at 478...

« Last Edit: June 21, 2010, 10:43:04 PM by TwilightLord »

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My bad, then. I thought all the different models start at 500+. Still, I don't think you could've started at ~140. Are you sure you cast Cure before entering the zone with the spear?

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Yeah, I cast it about ten times while standing by the Gate Crystal in Staging Shaft. I read that zoning into Ore Separation doesn't change the RNG because there's nothing in that area, and the example I was going by did the Curing in Staging Shaft too.


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I think I know where you made a mistake. You said you were four spaces above the value that ends with <10. You need to be 5 spaces above. The value connected with the Zodiac Spear chest is the fourth value starting from the next number, not your current one.

529: 3810147079      1532
530: 3524684028      1495
531: 1572121200      1621
532: 4287080338      1539
533: 1572207902      1586
534: 1584849294      1506

This means, once you heal yourself for 1532 HP you should enter the zone with the chest, because the fourth number after that event ends with <10.


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Yeah, that's how I was counting it. I figured it started with the next number in the sequence, so that's how I was calculating it. For instance, I just started up from a cold start. Zoned into Ore Separation.
Cast Cure once - healed for 1385.
Cast it again, healed for 1315.
1385 and 1315 show up in lines 56 and 57 respectively (remember that my character has a level of 86 and a Magick Power of 68, and has the Serenity licence). Next four lines are:
58: 549185037          1404
59: 3443926032          1321
60: 27258861          1392
61: 1453942303          1294

03 < 10, so the chest should spawn, right? Zone into Phase 2 Dig, cast Float on Basch (since it ran out while I was doing all that Curing), switch in Ashe, Immobilize, get Bash (Edit: Bash? What? I must have been asleep when I wrote this...) back in, run to chest spawn point...

...And there's nothing there. No chest. I know I'm going to the right place, since I've watched FF12GM's YouTube video several times.

« Last Edit: June 22, 2010, 02:43:51 PM by TwilightLord »

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I'm not familiar with what's going on in this topic, so I might not even know what I'm talking about when I say this, but isn't the ZS chest the fourth, not the fifth?


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Yes, guwa. It is.

I'm pretty sure you made an error in the formula. At level 86 with 68 Magick Power the first 1385 Cure is at line 728. Line 56 cures you for 1553 HP and line 57 cures you for 1521 HP. You didn't edit the formula correctly (or maybe I made a mistake somewhere). This is how it should look like:

=INT((20+(MOD($A728;20*12,5))/100)*((86+68)*68/256+2)*1,5)

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Yeah, that's exactly what my formula looks like.

=INT((20+(MOD($A1205;20*12.5))/100)*((86+68)*68/256+2)*1.5)

I have .s instead of ,s, but when I put the ,s in it just says "#NAME?"

Wait a second...

My Cure values were in the wrong places, that's why! I had the value for line #478 in line #1 for some reason...

Alright, I fixed it. Let's try it again with these values and see what happens.

...Okay, that's worse. I have no idea what's going on.

Line 728 is now 1385, like you said it should be. However, I have 1356 in line 56 and 1328 in line 57.

Edit: YES! I DID IT! I got a second Zodiac Spear! Ahh, I can't believe it actually worked!!

« Last Edit: June 23, 2010, 10:00:24 PM by TwilightLord »